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 Post subject: Re: The Exit Begins?
PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:42 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: The Exit Begins?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:08 am 
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So, we've now seen the first time in History that a Government has been held to be in Contempt of Parliament, but I have to say that consequences seem to be pretty minimal for them, except it looked like the Attorney General was about to spontaneously combust when the result of the vote came in.

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 Post subject: Re: The Exit Begins?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:25 pm 
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Legal advise is just that. Advise. If there was no such thing as legal argument the lawyers would all be out of work!

The Law is aways open to interpretation and dispute so I suggest there could be a way out of the Withdrawal agreement backstop if push came to shove despite what the Attorney General says.

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 Post subject: Re: The Exit Begins?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:33 pm 
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There seems to be a rising clamour for a second referendum. The vote in Parliament for Theresa May's Withdrawal Agreement looks set to fail and if it does the arguments for and against a second referendum become more viable. I am not so much bothered about another "people's vote" as such but there is a drift towards a call for a three option ballot - and it would look like this:

1) The present W/D agreement (or some other deal already offered by the E.U.)
2) No deal
2 )No Brexit

This looks to me like a "remainer's dream". With two possible Brexit outcomes and a single remain outcome it would effectively split the "leave" vote. It is possible that the combined "leave" votes would significantly outnumber the "remain" vote but the result would be that Brexit is cancelled.

That would be a travesty and must not be allowed to happen. :evil:

Supposedly a STV system could be used but it does rather complicate things.

Only a binary question should be allowed - unless there is a third vote, and I can imagine how popular that would be amongst the General Public who have already given MPs the clearest mandate... LEAVE. !

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 Post subject: Re: The Exit Begins?
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Apparently the most googled question this week was 'Where can I buy a yellow hi viz jacket?'.

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 Post subject: Re: The Exit Begins?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:58 am 
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Apparently the most googled question this week was 'Where can I buy a yellow hi viz jacket?'.


They are available sale or return from Rent-a-mob.

I can't help wondering if the morons who trashed the museum, defaced the Arc de Triomphe and set fire to over 100 cars were hired to divide and rule the genuine protestors. Genuine French people just wouldn't do this sort of thing to their National monuments.... then again, with so many immigrants, who can say WHO the French really are any more??

Reminds me of somewhere...oh yes...here! :cry:

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 Post subject: Re: The Exit Begins?
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I would refer my fellow GOMs to my post dated the 23rd June 2016

This week I see that Ford are proposing to cut 400 jobs from their Bridgend plant and also that Nissan in Sunderland are having second/third thoughts about investment for a new model SUV - both Wales and the North East so far as I am aware voted to leave the EU

Did they not think about the future? - no they were blinded by three things:-
1. Doubtful arithmetic mainly about the NHS.
2. Immigration - many immigrants do work that the Brits either cannot do or are unwilling to do
3. By blind ambition by our blundering politicians

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 Post subject: Re: The Exit Begins?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:26 pm 
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Algernon wrote:
I would refer my fellow GOMs to my post dated the 23rd June 2016

This week I see that Ford are proposing to cut 400 jobs from their Bridgend plant and also that Nissan in Sunderland are having second/third thoughts about investment for a new model SUV - both Wales and the North East so far as I am aware voted to leave the EU

Did they not think about the future? - no they were blinded by three things:-
1. Doubtful arithmetic mainly about the NHS.
2. Immigration - many immigrants do work that the Brits either cannot do or are unwilling to do
3. By blind ambition by our blundering politicians

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Ref. Ford.
Voluntary redundancy and across Europe as well

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 Post subject: Re: The Exit Begins?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:45 pm 
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I would refer my fellow GOMs to my post dated the 23rd June 2016

This week I see that Ford are proposing to cut 400 jobs from their Bridgend plant and also that Nissan in Sunderland are having second/third thoughts about investment for a new model SUV - both Wales and the North East so far as I am aware voted to leave the EU

Did they not think about the future? - no they were blinded by three things:-
1. Doubtful arithmetic mainly about the NHS.
2. Immigration - many immigrants do work that the Brits either cannot do or are unwilling to do
3. By blind ambition by our blundering politicians

Rule Britannia


You completely miss the point.

People voted in their MILLIONS to leave the E.U. because they WANT THEIR COUNTRY BACK.

People voted for Brexit DESPITE all the dire predictions which shows more than anything the strength of feeling. Those who voted for change did so not because they were a little bit fed up with the E.U. but because they HATE the E.U.

I have campaigned to leave the E.U. since the 1970s when a criminally treacherous elite took us into the "common market" and hid the truth from the British people about the long term consequences.

For those who think Britain is doomed by leaving the E.U. let me remind them that apart from the ring leaders, i.e. Germany, we have since the beginning of our membership been the only NET CONTRIBUTOR. The amount of wealth that the E.U. have soaked us for over the years has been absolutely staggering.

In the end, the National Interest is not about the short term investment opportunities of multi national companies but by self determination. The values of democracy and freedom will always out weigh short term interests of you or me which is why we as a Country were prepared to stand up to Hitler.

I could explain to remainers in much greater detail why they are wrong to entrust their futures to the corrupt E.U. but there is no point in trying to describe a moral philosophy to someone if their mind is closed.

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 Post subject: Re: The Exit Begins?
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old git wrote:
Algernon wrote:
I would refer my fellow GOMs to my post dated the 23rd June 2016

This week I see that Ford are proposing to cut 400 jobs from their Bridgend plant and also that Nissan in Sunderland are having second/third thoughts about investment for a new model SUV - both Wales and the North East so far as I am aware voted to leave the EU

Did they not think about the future? - no they were blinded by three things:-
1. Doubtful arithmetic mainly about the NHS.
2. Immigration - many immigrants do work that the Brits either cannot do or are unwilling to do
3. By blind ambition by our blundering politicians

Rule Britannia


You completely miss the point.

People voted in their MILLIONS to leave the E.U. because they WANT THEIR COUNTRY BACK.

People voted for Brexit DESPITE all the dire predictions which shows more than anything the strength of feeling. Those who voted for change did so not because they were a little bit fed up with the E.U. but because they HATE the E.U.

I have campaigned to leave the E.U. since the 1970s when a criminally treacherous elite took us into the "common market" and hid the truth from the British people about the long term consequences.

For those who think Britain is doomed by leaving the E.U. let me remind them that apart from the ring leaders, i.e. Germany, we have since the beginning of our membership been the only NET CONTRIBUTOR. The amount of wealth that the E.U. have soaked us for over the years has been absolutely staggering.

In the end, the National Interest is not about the short term investment opportunities of multi national companies but by self determination. The values of democracy and freedom will always out weigh short term interests of you or me which is why we as a Country were prepared to stand up to Hitler.

I could explain to remainers in much greater detail why they are wrong to entrust their futures to the corrupt E.U. but there is no point in trying to describe a moral philosophy to someone if their mind is closed.


From Guitarplayingold git to old git........... I salute you, Sir. :salut:

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 Post subject: Re: The Exit Begins?
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Guitarplayingoldgit wrote:
old git wrote:

From Guitarplayingold git to old git........... I salute you, Sir. :salut:


Much appreciated. :D

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 Post subject: Re: The Exit Begins?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:48 am 
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Is there any way we can shuffle these self -loving Leavers to a quiet corner where they can get a regular Nigel injection and froth at the mouth in their righteousness ? It's everyone's right to talk bollox but not over and over again ,surely ?

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 Post subject: Re: The Exit Begins?
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magog wrote:
Is there any way we can shuffle these self -loving Leavers to a quiet corner where they can get a regular Nigel injection and froth at the mouth in their righteousness ? It's everyone's right to talk bollox but not over and over again ,surely ?

:roll:



Whoaaah ! hold fast there Colonel. I think the Remoaners have well and truly cornered the 'Grizzling' market.

It's us swivel eyed Bigoted Loons that have had to endure insult after insult from our condescending 'know better than you' supposed betters.

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 Post subject: Re: The Exit Begins?
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The trouble seems to be that everyone who voted leave is obviously completely stupid and ignorant while everyone who voted remain is as clever as Einstein and always do the right thing. Believe that and you can believe anything. It is ironic I think that it is now the remainers who are being lambasted for delaying Brexit.

A political impasse was inevitable in my view when two different mandates were conflated. A final decision on the referendum was originally advisory to Government but it was legally extended to Parliament where it has become a political football. By pushing for a second referendum all Parliamentarians are doing is kicking the can down the road where eventually the same clash of mandates will reappear because the arguments will remain the same regardless of the Public vote.

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 Post subject: Re: The Exit Begins?
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old git wrote:
By pushing for a second referendum all Parliamentarians are doing is kicking the can down the road where eventually the same clash of mandates will reappear because the arguments will remain the same regardless of the Public vote.



Second referendum won't work (in the way they think it will).

They want to have two options.

May's Deal (which isn't Leave at all, its worse than Remain)
Or
Remain

So it would clearly be a stitch up and the argument would still never end. In fact, most likely there would be some kind of boycott/protest at that kind of referendum.

Also, it will give the Green Light to Wee Cranky, who can then have as many referendums as she wants (also with dubious choices and wording) in order to get the result she wants.
So it's good bye to the UK as we know it, if that happens.

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