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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:51 am 
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The sum involved seems trifling.
A pittance which would hardly buy me a square meal at my Club.


Quite so Pedders, or enough to buy a nominal claret to serve to ones land agent or archivist ...

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:27 pm 
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Caveat emptor Dippers, the principle that the buyer alone is responsible for checking the quality and suitability of goods before a purchase is made.

Once again Biggles you are talking through an orifice unlikely to suffer tooth decay. How do you do this with a car which breaks down after six months. A vacuum cleaner which, when you unbox it, has parts missing. FFS man, read the Trade Descriptions Act.

Some of these trades, locksmith, tree surgeons, roofers, etc., are know to harbour a number of rotten eggs, locksmiths are entirely unregulated. At the very least they should be CREd.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 3:30 pm 
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[i]Once again Biggles you are talking through an orifice unlikely to suffer tooth decay. How do you do this with a car which breaks down after six months. A vacuum cleaner which, when you unbox it, has parts missing. FFS man, read the Trade Descriptions Act.

Some of these trades, locksmith, tree surgeons, roofers, etc., are know to harbour a number of rotten eggs, locksmiths are entirely unregulated. At the very least they should be CREd.


We try to use recommended tradesmen where possible and it generally works well. I'm with Dippers on this ,there are cowboys but his long association with sparks and plumbers should surely yield a name or two.
There is no doubt that it is a jungle out there and separating the talented from the predators is not possible through looking at adverts. One of our failings in this country is accepting the mediocre which extends through the humblest of trades through to the Houses of Parliament.
I have a poke at Dips from time to time but he is right , crap work should be punished and kept away from others .

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 3:39 pm 
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Thank you 'gog, but I am afraid that compalints such as this are always seen as fair game by the trolls. I am battling with another such one as Biggles on CAG.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:20 pm 
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Changing locks on patio doors is childs' play. More often than not they are the Euro cylinder type. Cost less than £20 and take less than 10 minutes.

Where you went wrong El Dips was getting a cheapo pikie to do it in the first place.

But, birds of a feather and all that eh??

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Getting a tradesman out for 10 minutes work and expecting them to charge
you by the minute?. Good luck with that one. And can you pass on the details
of these tradesmen should they exist?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:43 am 
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A decent household/landlords insurance policy should have covered that. The insurers have accredited tradesmen on their call out lists for such emergencies.

Unless you are skimping on your insurance, that is.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:48 am 
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I use LetSure, will check the T&C. I have plumbing and drains cover with British Gas, and my insurance covers lock outs, but I do not thing that wear and tear is covered.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:31 am 
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D P Dance wrote:
If tradesmen are fair with me I am a model customer. You have read the Trustpilot reviews, surely they cannot all be fakes.

From your previous posts I do not think you play fair with tradesmen. Why do you have so much trouble, far more than is average. We all know there are dodgy tradesmen, you seem to have a knack of hiring then. I agree, reviews are not all fake, but a number of bad reviews are generated by rivals sadly that is a factor with these sites.


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We try to use recommended tradesmen where possible and it generally works well. I'm with Dippers on this ,there are cowboys but his long association with sparks and plumbers should surely yield a name or two.
There is no doubt that it is a jungle out there and separating the talented from the predators is not possible through looking at adverts. One of our failings in this country is accepting the mediocre which extends through the humblest of trades through to the Houses of Parliament.
I have a poke at Dips from time to time but he is right , crap work should be punished and kept away from others .

Fair enough Maggs, but why is it Dippers always has problems, just look back on his post of who he has refused to pay or who he is taking to court. He is the only man I know with a season ticket for the small claims court.
Penny pinching has a very marked effect on the quality of workmanship on any job, If you want a good job then you have to cough up or you get what you deserve. Yes I know that from time to time, just on the law of averages you will get some cowboy trying it on, we have all been there. Dipps seem to have a gift for hiring dodgy ones. Either that or he goes out of his way, looking to save, by going to court or refusing to pay in the hope of a price reduction. I suspect the latter.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:46 am 
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From your previous posts I do not think you play fair with tradesmen.

I think that I do. I have only had three disputes with local tradesmen, I usually go after bigger fish.

I have had monumental battles with British Gas, Royal Mail, Thames Water, Natwest the vatman, DVLA, Orange, APCOA, Thames Water, My Landlord, a tenant, Fiat, Alfa Romeo, Tesco, Amazon, Reading Borough Council, The Court Service, and Thames Valley Police, all of which I won, and the Local Government Ombudsman, The Property Ombudsman, Reading Borough Council, and TVHA which I lost, You win some you lose some.

I enjoy it. Had I not passed the Foreign Office exams I would like to have become a barrister. Your British Gas Saga was the best rip off story I have ever read.

Why do you have so much trouble


Dunno, They probably think that I am a pushover.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:00 am 
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D P Dance wrote:
From your previous posts I do not think you play fair with tradesmen.

I think that I do] I have only had three disputes with local tradesmen, I usually go after bigger fish.

I have had monumental battles with British Gas, Royal Mail, Thames Water, Natwest the vatman, DVLA, Orange, APCOA, Thames Water, My Landlord, a tenant, Fiat, Alfa Romeo, Tesco, Amazon, Reading Borough Council, The Court Service, and Thames Valley Police, all of which I won, and the Local Government Ombudsman, The Property Ombudsman, Reading Borough Council, and TVHA which I lost, You win some you lose some.

I enjoy it. Had I not passed the Foreign Office exams I would like to have become a barrister. Your British Gas Saga was the best rip off story I have ever read.
Not a rip off, more of a f@ckup. We are not connected to mains gas, their computers said we had a meter, they demanded to read it, they got a warrant got laughed out of court.


Why do you have so much trouble


Dunno, They probably think that I am a pushover.
No Dipps you go looking for trouble, you admit you enjoy it. Nothing to be proud of. My son was a Barrister, it was well paid but a bloody awful job.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:15 am 
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D P Dance wrote:
From your previous posts I do not think you play fair with tradesmen.

I think that I do. I have only had three disputes with local tradesmen, I usually go after bigger fish.

I have had monumental battles with British Gas, Royal Mail, Thames Water, Natwest the vatman, DVLA, Orange, APCOA, Thames Water, My Landlord, a tenant, Fiat, Alfa Romeo, Tesco, Amazon, Reading Borough Council, The Court Service, and Thames Valley Police, all of which I won, and the Local Government Ombudsman, The Property Ombudsman, Reading Borough Council, and TVHA which I lost, You win some you lose some.

I enjoy it. Had I not passed the Foreign Office exams I would like to have become a barrister. Your British Gas Saga was the best rip off story I have ever read.

Why do you have so much trouble


Dunno, They probably think that I am a pushover.


You forgot Renault. Don't forget the Captur saga, which played out on here.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:16 pm 
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Indeed I did, what is happening to my memory.

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My son was a Barrister, it was well paid but a bloody awful job.

Depends what you are in I suppose. Patents are proibably as dull as ditch water but criminal law has its attraction.

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Depends what you are in I suppose. Patents are proibably as dull as ditch water but criminal law has its attraction.


He specialised in criminal law found that to be like watching paint dry, then moved over to company law. He left law when I retired to run the family business.
That has been sold off now, to an American company. He and his wife are planing to open a solicitors practice in the new year.

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I hope he will not take on private parking companies as clients.

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